to consider the deal and avoid fiscal cliff. bring in panel. fred barnes, executive editor of stand stand. kirsten powers and sindcated columnist krauthammer. >> what do you make of this? >> moldestly optimistic. they work out a deal before. they did when the talks over the debt limit fell apart. they can do it again. they can raise the income level for having the taxes raised. president offered $400,000 rather than $250,000. $400,000. people over that pay more last week. got it to $500,000, i personally talked to members of congress conservative republicans who would go along with that. then maybe 400,000 is enough. they will come up with something. if they threw in the amt, not letting it hit 30 million more people. a deal is there to be had. if anybody can put it together, it's reid and mcconnell. they are good at this. >> a deal has been there to had for quite some time. not sure what the republicans with -- what the problem with the republicans is. obama in the end will have won this. it's, if this guess up for a vote. if his package goes